Stick to IR35 and not general economics, reader tells fellow poster

I only studied economics to O level and have no wish to get involved in an argument I can not support.

Read Andy Whites new thread today to get a much more eloquent analysis of what I have been trying to say to you for some time.

I accept your viewpoint is valid, I dont want to pick holes in your arguments, I am trying to show you that from evidence which I can not check, that you are wrong.

All your arguments are based on supposition or assumption. It is fair to assume that foreign workers know their value etc. That is what I called unsupported bullshit. Far from me being dismissive it is you sir who seems able to disregard other peoples evidence at a whim with no support, thus my suggestion that you may be getting into bed with phony Tony or Miss P.

One of the previous posts quoted 12K as a figure based on his personal experience. I didnt have your crystal ball or whatever it is to see that he was a liar and was making it up so I chose to accept it at face value as evidence against IR35.

I believe that many of your arguments miss the point of this whole BBS. I dont care that my copy of WORD or any other software doesnt help the UK economy, it is irrelevant to this BBS.

We are trying to oppose IR35 with reasoned arguments which show its inherent unfairness (eugh!)

Now supply and demand dictates that the cost of an item will find its own level. I dont have a problem with UK rates going down if that is what the market dictates. Lower unit labour costs etc are beyond my knowledge base, maybe you could enlighten me if the experts you quote refer to the knowledge based sector as well as the manufacturing sector and if they propose artificially lowering the cost to circumvent demand outstripping supply.

These imported workers will contribute to the UK economy, my point was that they will not contribute as much as a local. Based on evidence from previous influxes from abroad, particularly the Indian sub continent, these people spend as little as they can live off and send the rest to support their families at home, ergo less to the UK economy. This is in direct comparison with the local who will spend all his disposable income in the local economy, it is not supposed to start an economics debate on the UK in general it is to show that IR35 and FTVs will remove SOME money from the economy.

I will accept any arguments and evidence you have which show the original post and my extrapolations to be wrong, but I will still say its bull if you cant back it up with evidence. Stick to the IR35 theme and not general economics (ie use of software from outside UK).